Hello everyone, <br>Hello, Benjamin, <br><br>Perhaps a little bit out of time and place - but last year at ICAZ conference I saw a poster on astragals from Bronze age Hungary with similar usewear pattern, used probably for clay working. <br>
This is the link for the abstract, perhaps photos may be found or asked from author. <br><a href="http://alexandriaarchive.org/bonecommons/items/show/1383">http://alexandriaarchive.org/bonecommons/items/show/1383</a> <br>
<br>And I agree with Marloes, they must have been flattened before use. Some other used astragals, from Balkan Neolithic and Chalcolithic, seemed to have been flattened before use (probably with sandstone) - although they were most likely used on soft, organic materials, since they have intense polish. <br>
<br>best, selena <br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 July 2011 21:02, Marloes Rijkelijkhuizen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marloesrijkelijkhuizen@hotmail.com">marloesrijkelijkhuizen@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi Benjamin<br>
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I couldn't see if it was flattened (before use). <br>
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If used, it should be used for/on something with a flat surface, the surface is completely flat. (compare the medieval skates, these were used on ice and have a flat surface, but were sometimes flattened before use). If used for pottery the surface wouldn't be straight.<br>
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Best, Marloes<br><br> <br>
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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 12:35:47 +0100<br>From: <a href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" target="_blank">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br>
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<div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;">No, it isn't.<br>I send photo of another object where you can see more precisely the traces. Use wear area is the result of the use/exploitation of the flatest face of the phalanx, maybe with a kind of abrasion technique... The mophologic modification of the bone could be various but never very important.<br>
<br>Non, il ne s'agit pas de sciage. <br>Je joins une photo d'un autre objet sur laquelle on voit plus précisément les stigmates. La zone d'usure est le résultat de l'utilisation ou de l'exploitation de la face la plus plate de la phalange, peut être en utilisant une technique d'abrasion... Ce degré d'usure peut varier mais il n'est jamais très important.<br>
<div> </div><span style="font-weight: bold;">Marquebielle Benjamin</span><br>PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608<br>5, rue du pont Guilheméry<br>31000 Toulouse<br>tel : 06 71 33 61 52<br>e-mail : <a href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">De :</span></b> François Poplin <<a href="mailto:poplin@mnhn.fr" target="_blank">poplin@mnhn.fr</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> <a href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu" target="_blank">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Ven 1 juillet 2011, 12h 20min 16s<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [Bonetools] protohistoric object<br></font><br>Est-il sûr qu'il ne s'agit pas d'un sciage ?<br>
<br>Would not be sawing traces ?<br><br>Le 01/07/2011 11:00, MARQUEBIELLE Benjamin a écrit :
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<div style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;">Hello !<br>Does anybody have an idea about the type or function of this object ? It's an young <span style="text-decoration: underline;">pig phalanx</span>, with <span style="text-decoration: underline;">use wear traces on the internal face</span>, covered by oblique striations. It comes from large <span style="text-decoration: underline;">protohistoric site</span> (possible marketplace) of Toulouse, in the south of France (II-I° century BC). About 20 objects was found, a majority made of pig phalanxes (young or not) and only two made of bovid pahlanxes. Use wear is always located on the same face, with different use degree and some objetcs are <span style="text-decoration: underline;">perforated on the proximal face</span>. We thought about a kind of <span style="text-decoration: underline;">smoother </span>(in relation with potery ? metal ?) but objects are realy small and found in various contexts (more often in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">wells</span> full of rubbish).<br>
Thanks a lot and best regards<br>
<div> </div><span style="font-weight: bold;">Marquebielle Benjamin</span><br>PhD student TRACES laboratory - UMR 5608<br>5, rue du pont Guilheméry<br>31000 Toulouse<br>tel : 06 71 33 61 52<br>e-mail : <a href="mailto:benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">benjamin.marquebielle@yahoo.fr</a><br>
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