<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:SimSun;
panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1;}
@font-face
{font-family:SimSun;
panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"\@SimSun";
panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
span.EmailStyle17
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;}
@page WordSection1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’ve just been looking at some bone plaques used for tablet weaving and the amount of wear on the holes in these tablets, just from a spun thread, is quite considerable. If, for instance, this antler object was used for preparing a warp for weaving, I would expect to see wear of this type in the grooves. If the grooves were used for guiding metal wire, then again I would expect to see evidence on the cut edges of wear, and deep cuts if the wire had been under any tension. Can we see some close-up of the edges of the grooves?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sonia <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dr Sonia O'Connor </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University of York</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Post-doctoral Research Fellow<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Archaeological Sciences<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Division of AGES, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>University of Bradford<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>tel 01274 23 6498 (office) 5210 (lab)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>fax 01274 23 5210<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu [mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alice Choyke<br><b>Sent:</b> 05 March 2011 18:03<br><b>To:</b> Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bonetools] Fwd: A strange antler tool<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>So - are we back at the mechnanism idea or what? Sonia - do you have any ideas? Or Marloes with your strange 16th-17th centruy objects?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Alice<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Etan Ayalon <<a href="mailto:etana@eretzmuseum.org.il">etana@eretzmuseum.org.il</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I think metal threads would have left deep scratches in the soft antler, which the photo doesn't show.<br>Etan Ayalon<br><br>________________________________<br><br>From: <a href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a> on behalf of Alice Choyke<br>Sent: Sat 3/5/2011 2:51 AM<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>To: Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.<br>Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Fwd: A strange antler tool<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>But to return to poor Michael's original object - I really wonder whether this could be a draw plate for metal threads given how soft antler is. It is really a puzzle.<br><br>Alice<br><br><br>On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 5:42 PM, S O'Connor <<a href="mailto:S.Oconnor@bradford.ac.uk">S.Oconnor@bradford.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br><br> The name for this is a draw plate.<br><br><br><br> Sonia<br><br><br><br> Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University of York<br><br> Post-doctoral Research Fellow<br><br> Archaeological Sciences<br><br> Division of AGES,<br><br> University of Bradford<br><br> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK<br><br><br><br> tel 01274 23 6498 (office) 5210 (lab)<br><br> fax 01274 23 5210<br><br><br><br> From: <a href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a>] On Behalf Of Gun-Britt<br> Sent: 04 March 2011 12:09<br> To: Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for thestudy of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.<br><br> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Fwd: A strange antler tool<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> Hi and sorry for delayed answer.<br><br><br><br> I try to attach the drawing I made, and I hope you understand how I think-this would mean (I guess) that perhaps a "top" to this tool is missing, or if not, that they - like Etan suggested - used it for thongs or something softer and just used their finger to "top" it...i.e. to stop the what-ever-they-were-using to slip out of the groove. Sorry about the size, and hope it works,<br><br> **Gun-Britt, Sweden<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <<a href="http://62.90.210.236:801/exchange/etana/Drafts/image001.jpg" target="_blank">http://62.90.210.236:801/exchange/etana/Drafts/image001.jpg</a>><br><br> ----- Original Message -----<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> From: Etan Ayalon <mailto:<a href="mailto:etana@eretzmuseum.org.il">etana@eretzmuseum.org.il</a>><br><br> To: Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for thestudy ofobjectand waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn. <mailto:<a href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 7:12 AM<br><br> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Fwd: A strange antler tool<br><br><br><br> Dear all,<br><br> In the Levant, at least, such metal threads were traditionally made by goldsmiths with a different tool - a piece of metal with many small holes of various diameters. This piece was mounted on a wooden base equipped with a small pulley on each side. The thread was tied to one pulley, passed through the largest hole and pulled through it using the other pulley. Then it was transferred to the next, smaller hole etc. etc.<br><br><br><br> I was thinking about a tool used to straighten or strech strings and thongs, made for instance of leather, by holding one of them in one of the tool's slices, locking it in place with the finger and then pulling the tool along the string.<br><br> Etan Ayalon<br><br><br><br><br>________________________________<br><br><br> From: <a href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a>] On Behalf Of Alice Choyke<br> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:07 PM<br> To: Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.<br> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Fwd: A strange antler tool<br><br> Dear Gun-Britt,<br><br> Could you send us a picture of this tool and explain how it works? I have never heard about such things and am now very curious indeed.<br><br><br><br> Cheers!<br><br> Alice<br><br> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Gun-Britt <<a href="mailto:lazy-b@algonet.se">lazy-b@algonet.se</a>> wrote:<br><br> Hello all,<br><br><br><br> I am a lurking list-member, just enjoying reading all your inputs. I think too toward a metalworking tool, in making threads of metal of different thicknesses. It sure looks like a sort of "key" or mechanism, but hey, I have done some goldsmithing, and we used a similar tool to pull the metal into thinner and thinner threads. Hard work, but tin - as suggested earlier - is a very soft metal.<br><br><br><br> Just a thought,<br><br> Please continue,<br><br> Love and blessings,<br><br> **Gun-Britt Blomdahl<br><br> 5th year, thesis-writing at Linnaeus University, Kalmar, Sweden<br><br><br><br><br><br> ----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'> From: Christian Küchelmann <mailto:<a href="mailto:info@knochenarbeit.de">info@knochenarbeit.de</a>><br><br> To: BONETOOLS of bone <mailto:<a href="mailto:bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a>><br><br> Cc: Michael Olausson <mailto:<a href="mailto:michael.olausson673@gmail.com">michael.olausson673@gmail.com</a>><br><br> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 6:12 PM<br><br> Subject: [Bonetools] Fwd: A strange antler tool<br><br><br><br> Dear all,<br><br><br><br> following up a request by Michael Olausson that has already been sent to the list by Alice last week (see below) I would like to add that the tool is now permanently visible for further discussion on the Mystery bone tool page of the WBRG website at<br><br> <a href="http://www.wbrg.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=20" target="_blank">http://www.wbrg.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=20</a><br><br><br><br> Best<br><br><br><br> Christian<br><br><br><br> --------<br><br> Dear All,<br><br> I am forwarding a letter and photo from a Swedish colleague. Another strange tool. It looks like some part of a mechanism - a locking mechanism? However Michael Olausson also says it has some resemblances to a tool used by the Sami for producing tin thread! If you reply to Michael could you also please CC the list so we can all read about it?<br><br><br><br> Alice<br><br> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br> From: Michael Olausson <<a href="mailto:michael.olausson673@gmail.com">michael.olausson673@gmail.com</a>><br> Date: Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:55 AM<br> Subject: A strange antler tool<br> To: <a href="mailto:h13017cho@helka.iif.hu">h13017cho@helka.iif.hu</a><br><br><br> Dear Dr. Alice Choyke,<br> Dr Kordula Gostencnik suggested that I should contact You in this<br> matter. I will send You my letter to her as well with the picture of<br> the item. Dr Gostencnik dod?t regard the toll as one conected to<br> textil handcraft. She suggestes that it might be a toy, I do not agree<br> with her, if it should look like a "bear" then it should be made as a<br> bear! Since there are three differnt kinds of "measurements" of the<br> teeth, I radaer would thinkt that it has been used to make threads ore<br> to measure threads. We have a little discussion in Stockholm if it<br> could be used for metal, silver and gold.<br> The tool wich has many similarties with a Roman antler key, was found<br> in mixed layers on a house terrace on the hilltop site,<br><br> "H?hensiedlung" Runsa frpm the 5th & 6th centuries.<br><br><br><br> It would be nice if You could have some ideas, references.<br><br> Yours Sincerely<br> Michael Olausson<br> ass.prof<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <<a href="http://62.90.210.236:801/exchange/etana/Drafts/image002.jpg" target="_blank">http://62.90.210.236:801/exchange/etana/Drafts/image002.jpg</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br> _______________________________________________<br><br> Bonetools mailing list<br><br> <a href="mailto:Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br><br> <a href="https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools" target="_blank">https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools</a><br><br>________________________________<br><br> _______________________________________________<br> Bonetools mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br> <a href="https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools" target="_blank">https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools</a><br><br><br> _______________________________________________<br> Bonetools mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br> <a href="https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools" target="_blank">https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools</a><br><br><br><br> ______________________________________________________________________<br> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.<br> For more information please visit <a href="http://www.messagelabs.com/email" target="_blank">http://www.messagelabs.com/email</a><br> ______________________________________________________________________<br><br>________________________________<br><br> _______________________________________________<br> Bonetools mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br> <a href="https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools" target="_blank">https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools</a><br><br><br> _______________________________________________<br> Bonetools mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br> <a href="https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools" target="_blank">https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools</a><br><br><br><br><br><br>______________________________________________________________________<br>This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.<br>For more information please visit <a href="http://www.messagelabs.com/email" target="_blank">http://www.messagelabs.com/email</a><br>______________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Bonetools mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu">Bonetools@listserv.niif.hu</a><br><a href="https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools" target="_blank">https://listserv.niif.hu/mailman/listinfo/bonetools</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>