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<DIV><SPAN class=625580308-19102010><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would try plaiters
(with plant material) as well - they were usually looking for soft tools (metal
for instance tore the plant strips).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625580308-19102010><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Etan</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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[mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Alice
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<DIV></DIV>Dear Etan,<BR> I am going to run this idea past
some actual weavers. It looks like this piece is so worn you won't see any wear
beyond those caused by natural forces. For weaving narrow bands people usually
use short pointed shuttles - not at all curved. However, I am NOT a weaver of
any kind and there are indeed many ways to skin a cat.<BR><BR>Alice<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Etan Ayalon <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:etana@eretzmuseum.org.il">etana@eretzmuseum.org.il</A>></SPAN>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>I guess that when preparing a narrow strip
a curved shuttle could be even an advantage, holding it a little bit from
above. It would be interesting to check use wear both around the hole and
along the blade.Etan </FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
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<DIV></DIV>My problem with it being a weaving shuttle is that it is curved.
correct me if I am wrong but it would be very awkward to move it at all
between the warp threads. I am wondering why ANTLER was chosen to make a tool
that could be easily produced on cattle rib - much more work involved this
way.<BR><BR>Alice<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Etan Ayalon <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:etana@eretzmuseum.org.il"
target=_blank>etana@eretzmuseum.org.il</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear Olivier,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>This nice object looks like a
weaving shuttle. Exact parallels were used in Israel since
the Neolithic period (6th-5th millenia BCE).
cf.: </FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN>Bar Yosef, Ofer. 1988.
<I>Nahal</I> <I>Hemar Cave</I> ('Atiqot Series). Israel Antiquities
Authority. Jerusalem (Neolithic).</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN>Bar Adon, Pesah. 1980. <I>The
Cave of the Treasures, The Finds from the Caves in Nahal Mishmar</I>. Israel
Exploration Society. Jerusalem (Chalcolithic). Good photo of the same:
Ayalon, Etan and Sorek, Chagit. 1999. <I>Bare Bones, Ancient Artifacts from
Animal Bones</I> (Catalogue, Eretz Israel Museum). Tel Aviv, Fig.
27.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN>And so on, it has not changed
in many periods.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN>Sincerely
yours</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN>Etan
Ayalon</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT
size=2><SPAN>Israel </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Dear colleagues, we found on the settlement of
Erstein (late bronze age), located near Strasbourg (Alsace, France), an
antler artefact (photos attached). The dimensions are as follows:
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">- length 165 mm</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">- width 26 mm </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">- thickness: 2.3 to 2.4 mm </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">- diameter hole: 5.5 mm </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Does somebody have an idea of the possible function
of this object?</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks in advance. Sincerely yours.
OP.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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