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Hello everybody, I agree with Noelle. I could see this tool in Early Chalcolithic, eastern Europe. 3 may be 4 reasons : 1. the general presentation of the artifact is very close to Karanovo VI and Cucuteni artifacts. 2. The perforation seems to be done with a special dispositive (tige creuse…), common in Karanovo VI (begins in Karanovo V in Bulgaria) and western Europe at the same cultural level. 3. The natural relief of the antler might have been removed (like they do in Karanovo also : to be checked in Cucuteni). 4. The small round holes around the perforation : are they a decoration or just accident of conservation ?<div>If they are decoration they correspond also to bulgarian Early Chalcolithic examplars (and Cucuteni?). Isabelle</div><div><br><div><div>Le 30 avr. 10 à 16:02, Noelle Provenzano a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#548DD4">Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#548DD4">For me this object doesn’t smell horses cheek-pieces, nor even element of horse harness. They are generally more curved, smaller section and with different perforations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#548DD4">I think that one should not be focused on the perforation but rather on the two extremities, especially the smothed bevel. I think that the perforation is not the active part of the object.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#548DD4">For what I can see, the cut-marks seems made with flint and not with a metal tool (or a metal tool very very very smothed…).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#548DD4">So, even if I do not know this type of object, I don’t see problem to find it in Neolithic layer, also Late Neolithic or Chalcolithic.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#548DD4">Noëlle<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu [<a href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu">mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a>] <b>De la part de</b> Alice Choyke<br> <b>Envoyé :</b> vendredi 30 avril 2010 14:32<br> <b>À :</b> Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.<br> <b>Objet :</b> Re: [Bonetools] antler object from Iron Gates<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear Pam (and Selena of course) - this was my first reaction but if it is a bridle cheek piece it is a VERY primitive one. I actually really doubt that this piece was used this way.On the other hand the the form of the hafting hole is very 'bronze-agey'. I was thinking that it might be worthwhile to take a close look at those cut marks under high magnifications to see what their profile looks like - were they cut with a flint or a metal blade? That will tell you whether you have (as I suspect) a stray Middle Bronze Age tool of some sort. If Noelle is reading this I wonder how this object compares to her MBA Terremare materials which has every kind of antler tool in it you can imagine.<br> <br> Alice<o:p></o:p></p> <div><p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:03 AM, <<a href="mailto:PajX@aol.com">PajX@aol.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> <div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black">Dear Selena<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black">This item looks very much like others which have been identified as bridle cheek pieces (there's another name, but I'm not awake enough to remember it at the moment - ps...). Quite an exciting find re aspects of horse domestication/riding... The grooved wear line seems consistent with this.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black">Such pieces have also be identified as other tools. You might find this site of interest.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black"><a href="http://www.donsmaps.com/tools.html" target="_blank">http://www.donsmaps.com/tools.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black">I'd love to hear more about the find context.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black">best<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; 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