These wrist guards, so-called, seem to be a type for the Hungarian Bell-Beaker sites around Budapest as well (here they represent the beginning of the Early Bronze Age (2500 BC). There are no bone examples, only slate.<br>
<br>Alice <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Christian Küchelmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:info@knochenarbeit.de">info@knochenarbeit.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hello Sonia, dear all,<br>
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sorry for the late reply, but i did not manage to research in the recent past. But last week I came across two objects from neolithic bell beaker sites in Schleswig-Holstein, Germany (Archsum, Neversdorf) which are exhibited in the Museum in Schleswig that are interpreted as neolithic wrist guards (see below). They are made from slate and do have edges that I would assume to imply the danger of catching the bowstring. The other one is made of bone and was found in Stary Zamek near Wroclaw, Poland and is exhibited in the Archaeological Museum Wroclaw. It is also neolithic (5500-2200 BC). Here are some other links concerning the topic found in a quick search on the web:<br>
<a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armschutzplatte" target="_blank">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armschutzplatte</a><br>
<a href="http://www.archaeoforum.de/viewtopic.php" target="_blank">http://www.archaeoforum.de/viewtopic.php</a>?t=2641&sid=9fdcc962ddce819a38dfe8672bed9591<br>
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Best<br>
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Christian<br>
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Am 15.04.2009 um 19:39 schrieb Christian Küchelmann:<br>
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Hi Sonia,<br>
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I am shooting with long bows as well and I know pretty well what you mean, as it is a very unpleaseant experience when the string eventually gets stuck behind the wrist guard let alone that it can be dangerous for the archer. Nevertheless there are definite bone wrist guards from earlier than the Islamic periods. And I remember having asked myself the same question: Don't they imply the danger of catching the string? I will try to find pictures of examples and we may discuss if there are misinterpretations of those objects. Unfortunately I will leave for a ten days holidays tommorrow so I will have to postpone this search for the time after my return.<br>
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Christian<br>
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Am 15.04.2009 um 14:46 schrieb S O'Connor:<br>
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Dear Marta and Hans,<br>
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As an archer, all the wrist guards I have worn (admittedly in stiffened<br>
leather) are thin and curved to tightly follow the contours of the lower<br>
arm. They are designed so as not to present any edges or angles on which<br>
the bow string might catch when it is released. I don't think this object<br>
could function in that way.<br>
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Sonia<br>
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Hi Marta,<br>
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my first idea was an armplate of a bowyer to protect your lower arm<br>
from the bowstring (can't remember the correct term in english). I<br>
remember that I saw similar ones in the exhibition "Furusuiyya –<br>
Chevaliers en Pays d'Islam" in the Institute du Monde Arab in Paris<br>
(<a href="http://www.imarabe.org/" target="_blank">http://www.imarabe.org/</a>).<br>
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