Dear Anne - don't forget you promised me some beautiful 'bone tools of the month' for the website. That goes for everyone else who reds this mail.<br><br>Alice<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Anne Brundle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Anne.brundle@orkney.gov.uk">Anne.brundle@orkney.gov.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I’ve just looked back over the
Orkney combs and realize that there is beading at the bases of the teeth in
this double-sided comb from Saevarhowe in Birsay (Orkney Museum SH 1984.325). The
more heavily-worn combs in our collection tend to be those with copper-alloy
rivets, and the beading tends to be towards the points. See the comb from Pool,
top right in the attached image.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Is there a fundamental difference in
action between combing long and short hair? I think managing long hair might
well use the whole length of the teeth but shorter hair wouldn’t.</span></font></p>
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<a href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu" target="_blank">bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu" target="_blank">bonetools-bounces@listserv.niif.hu</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Alice Choyke<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> 22 October 2009 18:29<br>
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archaeologists of the research group for the study ofobject and waste of
bone,antler. ivory and horn.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bonetools] Beading
on comb teeth</div></div></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Yes, but how often do you
see a comb that was used by an entire family daily for almost 40 years?<br>
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A.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 6:03 PM, S O'Connor <<a href="mailto:S.Oconnor@bradford.ac.uk" target="_blank">S.Oconnor@bradford.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Thanks Alice. As Anne says, the wear on
the horn comb teeth is at a different location. Your pictures of bone,
antler and ivory comb tooth wear are more what I am used to seeing.
Marloes has had lots of horn combs and I don’t remember wear down at the bottom
of the teeth like that on hers (please do correct me Marloes if I am wrong), so
perhaps the way the comb is being used here is an important factor. </span></font><span lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Alice Choyke<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> 22 October 2009 14:40<br>
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archaeologists of the research group for the study of object and waste of bone,
antler. ivory and horn.</span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bonetools] Beading
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">Dear
Sonia and other comb enthusiasts,<br>
I am sending images of a VERY worn ivory comb from Visegrad that
I suspect was used frist by a Hungagarian owner and then for genration by the 'new'
Ottoman owners. Thee is als oan example of wear on a 15 year old bone comb that
used to belon to a friend of mine who used it everyday, twice a day with long
hair, a less used but still quite worn ivory late medieval comb from Buda
and a quite worn antler comb from a AD 3rd c. Sarmation settlement. Enjoy!<br>
<br>
Alice</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">On Thu,
Oct 22, 2009 at 11:16 AM, S O'Connor <<a href="mailto:S.Oconnor@bradford.ac.uk" target="_blank">S.Oconnor@bradford.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Dear All,</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font><span lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">I must add that all these materials, will
probably wear at different rates. Also the detailed form of the wear will
probably vary between these materials, as the pattern of this should reflect
a combination of the function of the comb, the material of the comb and
the structure of that material. </span></font><span lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font><span lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Horn is formed from layers (visible in Alice’s photo) of
finely corrugated sheets of mineral stiffened keratin protein. Working of the
surface of the comb exposes these layers at the sides and edges of the teeth.
If these layers wear at different rates (perhaps due to differences in
mineralisation or organisation of the protein matrix) this will produce slight
grooves in the surfaces of the comb teeth were the more readily worn layers are
exposed. Once these grooves are formed the hair will catch in them,
increasing the wear at these points. As the grooves get more pronounced
more fibres will get funnelled into them as the comb is pulled thought the
hair, increasing the wear still further at these points (even into more
resistant layers of the horn) eventually causing the
‘beading’. </span></font><span lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font><span lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Bone and antler are more heavily
mineralised than horn, their organic component is collagen rather than keratin,
and their structures are entirely different to horn. In addition, the physical
properties and structure of bone compact tissue are different to those of
antler. So although the mechanism of wear (abrasion by hair/grease/dirt
combination) is the same, the ‘necking’ or ‘beading’
produced should be different in detail in these different materials. Has
anyone observed this or done any experimental work in this area?</span></font><span lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Alice Choyke<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> 21 October 2009 21:53<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bonetools] Beading
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">For
example - this is a horn comb from the romanian village of Szek
which was in use by a family daily for around 40 years.<br>
<br>
Alice</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">On Wed,
Oct 21, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Tonya Largy <<a href="mailto:tonya.largy@verizon.net" target="_blank">tonya.largy@verizon.net</a>>
wrote:</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">Could
someone send a photo of a comb with "beading" on the teeth?
This is a new concept to me.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
Tonya Largy<br>
<br>
Alice Choyke wrote:</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">One
thingI can say that the notching or beading on bone/antler/horn/ivory combs
seems to start seriously developing after ten years. I have an example of
daily use by a single individual (I will send you my comb article) with
long hair who used the comb (bone) primarily to clean her hair of grit after a
day in the fields. Her family had another comb (this one of horn) which was
used for similar purposes by everyone in the family for about 20 years and then
by the mother alone for another 20 before being put away. That one has very
pronounced 'beading' on it. I think the lesson to draw is that specialists have
seriously underestimated the length of time such objects were used in the past.
If I forget to send my article remind me.<br>
Best,<br>
Alice</span></font></p>
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Oct 21, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Anne Brundle <<a href="mailto:Anne.brundle@orkney.gov.uk" target="_blank">Anne.brundle@orkney.gov.uk</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:Anne.brundle@orkney.gov.uk" target="_blank">Anne.brundle@orkney.gov.uk</a>>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
Does anyone on the list know of any studies of how quickly the<br>
teeth of bone or antler toilet combs may become beaded? And might<br>
the way hair was treated make a difference to the extent of wear?<br>
Sorry if this is a perennial question, I only just joined!<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Anne<br>
<br>
<br>
Anne Brundle<br>
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Curator of Archaeology<br>
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