[Bonetools] help qith mystery bone

Mon Mar 13 13:04:00 CET 2023

Dear all,

thanks a lot for all your ideas. I have not had the chance to see the 
bone yet but I hope I will be able to do it next month when I visit the 
museum. Then I will take new photographs and let you know about my 
observations.

Best wishes,

Marta

El 13/03/2023 a las 12:26, SIDERA Isabelle escribió:
> Dear Marta, Hans and Ian,
>
> Another possibility is a cutting edge tool led to exhaustion, which 
> acted on a material of narrow shape. This specific U-shape of the end 
> result from wear according to the following mechanism: while the 
> cutting edge, thiner than the edges, wears down, the edges, thicker, 
> wear less quickly and become prominent. This is a common feature which 
> I could often observe on Neolithic and Chalcolithic tools.
> Of course, this needs to be confirmed by wear observation.
> Can you see any striation on both side of the U-shape end (if the 
> surface of the bone is well preserved, you can see them with the naked 
> eye)? Is the end sharp or smooth? Does the base of the tool show 
> traces of percussion or not?
>
> Best wishes
> Isabelle
>
> Isabelle Sidéra
> Directrice de Recherche au CNRS
> Laboratoire AUSONIUS - UMR 5607
> Maison de l'archéologie
> 8, esplanade des Antilles
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>
> Chargée de cours d’Archéologie
> Université Bordeaux-Montaigne
>
>> Le 13 mars 2023 à 10:35, Ian Riddler <trzaska2 at outlook.com> a écrit :
>>
>> Hello Marta and Hans,
>> Apologies about the delay, this is a fascinating object. Is it 
>> hollow? I suspect that it might be. It is probably a fairly elaborate 
>> handle but there is also the possibility that it is a medieval lucet, 
>> an implement used to create braids. Difficult to see if there are any 
>> prongs at the end. The so-called ‘English’ variant of lucets uses 
>> caprine metatarsals and has two distinctive prongs at one end, as in 
>> the photo here. The earliest lucets go back to the late ninth century 
>> and they continue into the twelfth century.
>> Hope this helps,
>> Ian Riddler
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>> *From:*Hans Christian Küchelmann <mailto:info at knochenarbeit.de>
>> *Sent:*11 March 2023 17:58
>> *To:*BONETOOLS <mailto:bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
>> *Subject:*Re: [Bonetools] help qith mystery bone
>> Dear Marta,
>>
>> I would like to use this strange piece as Bonetool of the month on 
>> the other day. Would that be possible?
>>
>> With kind regards
>>
>> Christian
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>>
>> Hans Christian Küchelmann
>>
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>> > Am 27.02.2023 um 17:08 schrieb Marta Moreno García 
>> <marta.moreno at cchs.csic.es>:
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > A friend of mine has come across this caprine metatarsal (photos 
>> attached)  among the faunal assemblage from a medieval castle in 
>> Spain. Although she thinks the artefact is medieval, she does not 
>> exclude the possibility of an earlier date because Bronze age levels 
>> were identified on site, too. The problem is that it derives from old 
>> excavations and the field notes are lost.
>> >
>> > Any comments on its use or parallels are most than welcome.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Marta
>> > 
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