[Bonetools] smoothed horse radius

François POPLIN francois.poplin at mnhn.fr
Sun Sep 12 11:19:54 CEST 2021


This fine slender metatarsal lets me remember the use of deer metatarsal in saddle-rooms, harness-room as "lissoir pour les bottes" (boot-smoother), more precisely fox waxing (they say, but I have no picture to show). 


De: "Günther Karl Kunst" <guenther.karl.kunst at univie.ac.at> 
À: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn." <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>, "Maciej Karwowski" <maciej.karwowski at univie.ac.at> 
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Dear Silvia! 

It is true the Prellenkirchen specimen has never been published; maybe it is mentioned in Thurber/Skates made of Bone - a History; 

I send pictures in BW 


in this case, the question mark is not so much above its "skate identity", it is a skate as skate can be, but it concerns the dating - there is some Roman and migration period material at the site (it would fit much better here), although it derives from a pure Iron Age context; it is nevertheless maybe not the most reliable evidence for bone skates in central european La-Tène. you could contact Maciej Karwowski (his adress above) if you want to know more of the site. 


there are also smoothed (cattle)radii from Roman contexts 


of course the Alpine La-Tène/Roman period and the foreland area around is notorious for those "cattle mandible sledges", but this is a different story. 


all best wishes 

Karl 
Am 21.08.2021 um 08:57 schrieb [ mailto:silviaeccher at libero.it | silviaeccher at libero.it ] : 



Dear all, 

during the study of an Iron Age fauna in Bressanone (Bolzano, Italy) for my PhD research I found a proximal of horse radius (which I am attaching in two photos with different angles so that I can better appreciate its characteristics) with a smooth back face, shiny to the touch and view. 
There are some traces of processing on the sides, while the smoothed back has light and rare scratches horizontally. 

>From the bibliography that I have read and which was also indicated to me by Mr. Küchelmann, whom I thank again, would seem to be a skate/sledge runner. 

if you agree with this opinion, is anyone aware of the findings of skates/sledges in the Alps dating back to the Iron Age-Latène period? 
>From what I have found there would be a horse metatarsal from Prellenkirchen, Leitha-Marsch, Austria, dated to the late Latène but I do not think it has been published yet. 

Thank you all! 
Silvia Eccher 

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