[Bonetools] small caprine metapodial with weird marks

[François POPLIN]

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I have seen such a crested frog in Croatia 

De: "Paul Stokes" <escoffier1951 at yahoo.co.uk> 
À: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn." <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu> 
Envoyé: Jeudi 7 Octobre 2021 21:37:15 
Objet: Re: [Bonetools] small caprine metapodial with weird marks 

Hi Marta, 

There is a modern clay instrument in the shape of a frog that works using the hollow inside. A scapular like that in Etan's picture would possible work due to the bone being slightly dished. Might be worth a try, the local knacker's yard has been taken over so don't know if any bones are available to experiment.. 

Paul Stokes 

On Thursday, 7 October 2021, 19:39:24 BST, איתן איילון <etana at eretzmuseum.org.il> wrote: 




Dear Marta, 

Could it be part of a musical instrument – rasp? They are known from various periods and countries. See the attached bad photo. 

Etan Ayalon 




From: Bonetools <bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu> On Behalf Of Marta Moreno Garc?a 
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 9:56 AM 
To: Bonetools at listserv.niif.hu 
Cc: Aitor Brito Mayor ‏ <aitor.brito at ulpgc.es> 
Subject: [Bonetools] small caprine metapodial with weird marks 




Dear all, 

I am writing on behalf of a student of mine (Aitor Brito) from the Canary Islands who hopefully will be joining the bone list in brief. He is presently working on a faunal assemblage recovered from the Hospital de San Martín, an historic hospital located in the foundation levels of El Real de Las Palmas (Gran Canaria, Spain), the first village founded by the Spanish in the late 15 th century. Chop and cut marks on most of the faunal remains indicate they are food debris, but there is a very young caprine metapodial that presents some weird marks on the lateral side of the diaphysis. I am sorry the pictures attached are not very good but I hope you would be able to see what I mean. We are not sure about their origin. Are they anthropogenic? They do not look like gnawing marks to me. The spacing between them and their morphology are quite regular as if they could have been caused by a tool. We would be very grateful for any comments or ideas. 

Best regards, 

Marta 





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