[Bonetools] [EXT]Re: question about manufacturing time

[Naomi Martisius]

Yes, thank you all. This has given me much to consider!

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 10:28 AM Griffitts, Janet L - (griffitt) <
griffitt at arizona.edu> wrote:

>
> Hello
>
> Another complicating factor into the consideration regarding manufacturing
> time is the freshness or dryness of the bone.  I found that there was a
> huge difference in time that it takes to cut fresh bone and dry bone.  When
> I was making tools for usewear experiments I would cut all of the fresh
> bone into blanks right away and then store the blanks until needed because
> there wasn't as big a difference in grinding fresh and dry bone, but that
> after only a couple of weeks the bison bones I was working with would
> become very hard to cut using chert and quartzite tools (not impossible,
> but it would take much longer and would dull the chert tools faster).
> This was in Colorado, not a very humid environment.  I don't know how long
> it would take for the bones to dry out in a more humid or colder context.
>
> This is an interesting conversation!  Thanks for starting it!
>
> Janet
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Jan Griffitts, Ph.D.
> Visiting Scholar
> Dept. of Anthropology,
> Tucson,Arizona
>
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> Dear Naomi,
>
> there is an experiment done by Amy Margaris and colleagues in Canada on
> manufacturing Alutiq antler projectile tips, which is referenced on the
> experiments page of the Worked Bone Research Group (WBRG) website at
> https://www.wbrg.net/experiments/ (sroll down until November 2010). There
> is also a little movie about the experiment at https://vimeo.com/67681232.
>
> The WBRG reference database contains further useful references (
> https://www.wbrg.net/references). You can use the keyword search to
> search for appropriate references.
>
> Some papers that come to my mind randomly are:
>
> # Margaris, Amy Vlassia (2006): Alutiiq Enginieering: the Mechanics and
> Design of skeletal Technologies in Alaska's Kodiak Archipelago, PhD-thesis
> University of Arizona, Tucson
>
> # Pétillon, Jean-Marc / Bignon, Olivier / Bodu, Pierre / Cattellain,
> Pierre / Debout, Grégory / Langlais, Mathieu / Laroulandie, Véronique /
> Plisson, Hugues / Valentin, Boris (2011): Hard core and cutting edge:
> experimental manufacture and use of Magdalenian composite projectile tips.
> – Journal of Archaeological Science 38, 1266-1283
>
> # Pétillon, Jean-Marc (2006): Des Magdaleniens en Armes – Technologie des
> Armatures de Projectile en Bois de Cervide du Magdalenien Superior de la
> Grotte d Isturitz (Pyrenenees-Atlantiques), Artefacts 10, Treignes
>
> # Schibler, Jörg (2001): Experimental Production of Neolithic Bone and
> Antler Tools. in: Choyke, Alice M. & Bartosiewicz, Laszlo (eds.): Crafting
> Bone: Skeletal Technologies through Time and Space – Proceedings of the 2nd
> meeting of the (ICAZ) Worked Bone Research Group Budapest, 31 August – 5
> September 1999, British Archaeological Reports International Series   937,
> 49-60, Oxford
>
> #  Stodiek, Ulrich (1991): Jungpaläolithische Speerschleudern und Speere –
> ein Rekonstruktionsversuch, Experimentelle Archäologie in Deutschland. –
> Archäologische Mitteilungen aus Nordwestdeutschland Beiheft 4, 287-297
>
> # Stodiek, Ulrich & Paulsen, Harm (1996): "Mit dem Pfeil, dem Bogen…" –
> Technik der steinzeitlichen Jagd, Archäologische Mitteilungen aus
> Nordwestdeutschland Beiheft 16, Oldenburg
>
> # Stodiek, Ulrich (2000): Preliminary Results of an Experimental
> Investigation of Magdalenian Antler Points. – Anthropologie et Préhistoire
> 111, 70-78
>
> # Stone, Elisabeth Ann (2011): Through the Eye of the Needle:
> Investigations of Ethnographic, Experimental, and Archaeological Bone Tool
> Use Wear from Perishable Technologies, PhD-thesis University of New Mexico,
> Albuquerque
>
> Best wishes.
>
> Christian
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>
> > Am 28.05.2020 um 00:17 schrieb Naomi Martisius <nlmartisius at ucdavis.edu
> >:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Does anyone know of any research out there discussing how long it might
> take to manufacture bone or antler points?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Best,
> > Naomi
> >
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> > Naomi L. Martisius, PhD
> > Associate Researcher, Department of Anthropology,
> > University of California, Davis
> > Davis, CA 95616
> > email: nlmartisius at ucdavis.edu
> >
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> > Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology
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Naomi L. Martisius, PhD
Associate Researcher, Department of Anthropology,
University of California, Davis
Davis, CA 95616
email: nlmartisius at ucdavis.edu

Post-Doctoral Researcher, Department of Human Evolution,
Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology
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