[Bonetools] Lepus and Bone Tools
Alice Choyke
choyke at ceu.hu
Sat Feb 28 17:19:46 CET 2015
Dear King,
Well then, I will ask you if you know of necklaces/amulets from any
period in Poland with hare and dog bone beads/amulets. I would be happy
with examples from any period.
Best,
Alice
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Kinga Winnicka <k.m.winnicka at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear Alice,
>
> I agree that it is too early for the European rabbit, we think that the
> samples were contaminated and the results won't be published. Fortunately,
> it is actually not very expensive to do the testing in a Warsaw lab (ca.
> EUR 200 for the whole procedure for a number of samples). Thank you for the
> contact in York, I'll read about the method.
>
> I'd like to add that both assembalges have been consulted with zoologists
> and archaeozoologists and they do agree that bone shafts especially worked
> are not very diagnostic. We suspect however that some of the tube-shaped
> beads might have been made of bones of dogs/foxes, some kind of a wildcat
> and/or hares. This is partly on the basis that in the second assemblage we
> have a neclace made of fox and dog teeth and two humeri (without
> ephiphyses) of a wildcat.
>
> Best regards,
> Kinga
>
>
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>> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 09:14:07 +0100
>> From: Alice Choyke <choyke at ceu.hu>
>> To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
>> study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn."
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>> Dear all,
>> I would like to say that an EBA date for *Oryctolagus cuniculus *is
>>
>> far too early. These are Mediterreanean animals which were first
>> introduced
>> into continental Europe with the Romans. It is also very difficult to
>> identify the bones made into beads to species based on their morphology
>> and
>> DNA is far too expensive. I would recommend writing to York where there is
>> a new non-destructive process based on identifying the protein in collagen
>> called ZoOMS. Write to Matthew Collins (matthew.collins at york.ac.uk ).
>> In my experience beads are often made from the metapodials of
>> hare,
>> small dogs and fox - those would seem to me to be the most likely
>> possibilities for this time period for bead (or clasps or tinklers [sound
>> makers]).
>>
>> Best,
>> Alice
>>
>> Alice
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Kinga Winnicka <k.m.winnicka at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Karin,
>> >
>> > In the assemblage I've analysed for my MA thesis (technological and
>> > use-wear traces on bone and antler beads) I have some simple tube-shaped
>> > beads which could have been made of shafts of hares and/or rabbits.
>> >
>> > These beads originate from a sepulchral context and date to the Early
>> > Bronze Age in Poland (the site has been radiocarbon dated: 2026-1746
>> BC).
>> >
>> > Currently, I'm analysing a much bigger assemblage but from a similar
>> > context and I suspect that some of the bones are hare/rabbit bones.
>> These
>> > are again tube-shaped beads and also something that looks like
>> > semi-products - only shafts with broken off epiphyses. I'm planning to
>> do a
>> > DNA testing on some of the material, we've done that with 2 samples form
>> > the previous assemblage but it was inconclusive although the specialist
>> > suggested that there is a possibility that one of the beads could have
>> been
>> > made of an *Oryctolagus cuniculus* bone (97% homology).
>>
>> >
>> > I hope this helps.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Kinga Winnicka
>> > (University of Wroclaw, Poland)
>> >
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>> >> 1. Re: WBRG Zhenzhou (Pam Crabtree)
>> >> 2. Re: Russian terminology (cobecker)
>> >> 3. Re: Lepus and Bone Tools (Nerissa Russell)
>> >> 4. Re: Lepus and Bone Tools (Griffitts, Janet L - (griffitt))
>> >>
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>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:42:54 -0500
>> >> From: "Pam Crabtree" <PamCDougC at comcast.net>
>> >> To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
>> >> study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn."
>> >> <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] WBRG Zhenzhou
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>> >>
>> >> Wonderful news and Happy New Year. Pam and Doug
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: isabelle.sidera at mae.u-paris10.fr
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:17 AM
>> >> To: Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
>> study of
>> >> object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
>> >> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] WBRG Zhenzhou
>> >>
>> >> Dear Xiaolin,
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks for these good news!
>> >> Happy New Year!
>> >> Best, Isabelle
>> >>
>> >> > Dear Isabelle and All,
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > The publication of the preceedings of Zhengzhou is in the final step
>> and
>> >> > will be published soon.
>> >> > Once we get it, we will send the copies to the authors.
>> >> > Thank you so much for your support!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > With best wishes
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Xiaolin
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >> > --
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>> >> >
>> >> > ??? 2015-02-17 21:41:22???"SIDERA Isabelle"
>> >> > <isabelle.sidera at mae.u-paris10.fr> ?????????
>> >> >
>> >> > Dear All,
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > May be I am not informed, but I did not hear anything related to the
>> >> > publication of the proceedings of Zhengzhou. Can anybody give me
>> news of
>> >> > it ?
>> >> > Thank you, Isabelle
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >> Message: 2
>> >> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:08:16 +0100
>> >> From: "cobecker" <cobecker at zedat.fu-berlin.de>
>> >> To: 'R?mi BERTHON' <rberthon at yahoo.fr>, "'Mailing list for
>> >> archaeologists of the research group for the study of object
>> and
>> >> waste
>> >> of bone, antler. ivory and horn.'" <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
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>> >> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Russian terminology
>> >> Message-ID: <003e01d0502a$91f78270$b5e68750$@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
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>> >> Dear R?mi! I asked one of my colleagues, specialised in Eurasian
>> >> archaeology and perfect in the Russian language: prokolka =
>> Knochenspitze,
>> >> shilo = Pfriem. She could not tell me more specific meanings. Greetings
>> >> Yours Cornelia
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Von: Bonetools [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] Im Auftrag
>> >> von R?mi BERTHON
>> >> Gesendet: Freitag, 20. Februar 2015 15:16
>> >> An: bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
>> >> Betreff: [Bonetools] Russian terminology
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dear all,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I am translating a (Neolithic) archaeological report from Russian to
>> >> English and I get some difficulties with two bone pointed tools-related
>> >> terms: ???????? (prokolka) and ???? (shilo).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >From the text it seems that prokolka has (part of) the epiphysis left
>> on
>> >> at one end, whereas the shilo seems to have both ends sharpened.
>> Should I
>> >> use "awl" for both or do you have any suggestion for a differentiated
>> >> translation ? (Unfortunately I don't have illustration of what is
>> >> considered as prokolka or shilo in the text).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks in advance
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> R?mi Berthon
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> Message: 3
>> >> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:13:22 +0000
>> >> From: Nerissa Russell <nr29 at cornell.edu>
>> >> To: "bonetools at listserv.niif.hu" <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Lepus and Bone Tools
>> >> Message-ID: <D112381B.1C6DE%nr29 at cornell.edu>
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>> >>
>> >> At ?atalh?y?k (Neolithic Turkey), they occasionally made simple beads
>> >> from segments of hare long bones, judging from a radius and a humerus
>> piece
>> >> that remained as waste.
>> >>
>> >> Nerissa Russell
>> >> Professor
>> >> Department of Anthropology
>> >> Cornell University
>> >> 607-255-6790
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Karin Scott <kayscott at mweb.co.za<mailto:kayscott at mweb.co.za>>
>> >> Reply-To: "bonetools at listserv.niif.hu<mailto:
>> bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>"
>> >> <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu<mailto:bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>>
>> >> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 5:13 AM
>> >> To: "bonetools at listserv.niif.hu<mailto:bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>" <
>> >> bonetools at listserv.niif.hu<mailto:bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>>
>> >> Subject: [Bonetools] Lepus and Bone Tools
>> >>
>> >> Dear List
>> >>
>> >> Thank you to Alice for adding me.
>> >> I am an Archaeozoologist based in South Africa. I am currently doing
>> my
>> >> Masters in comparative osteology and osteomorphology of the two hare
>> >> species of southern Africa Lepus capensis (Cape hare) and Lepus
>> saxatilis
>> >> (scrub hare) .
>> >> Hares remains are found on almost all archaeological faunal assemblages
>> >> here although the NISP/MNI numbers vary greatly. As part of my
>> osteology
>> >> research I look at the archaeological and ethnological record to try
>> and
>> >> explain their presence on site. I found a very short note in an
>> article
>> >> that hare/rabbit bones were used by native Americans to make bone
>> tools.
>> >> It made me wonder if the same happened here with the hare bones. Hares
>> >> were also used in traditional medicine and possibly for other items
>> such as
>> >> clothing.
>> >> I would appreciate any references and/or articles that relate to the
>> use
>> >> of hares (whole, part, or bones) worldwide that can give me a starting
>> >> point for investigations or speculations as to why they are always
>> present
>> >> on sites. That is, of course, in addition to forming part of the diet.
>> >> I thank you in advance for your assistance.
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards
>> >>
>> >> Karin
>> >> Never argue with a dragon
>> >> For thou art crunchy
>> >> and goes well with cheese
>> >>
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>> >> Message: 4
>> >> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 21:02:33 +0000
>> >> From: "Griffitts, Janet L - (griffitt)" <griffitt at email.arizona.edu>
>> >> To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
>> >> study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn."
>> >> <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] Lepus and Bone Tools
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>> >> In the southwestern US we find jackrabbit (Lepus sp.) bones made into
>>
>> >> awls, beads, tubes, tinklers (or what is interpretted as such), and
>> >> occasionally other tools, ornaments, or other artifacts. In my limited
>> >> experience it seems like there's a bit more variety in form in the Four
>> >> Corners area (the Basketmaker, Anasazi/Ancestral Pueblo area) compared
>> to
>> >> Southern Arizona (Hohokam area), but that might be a matter of
>> preservation
>> >> and sample size. Here in the Sonora Desert, in the Hohokam area
>> leporids
>> >> tend to make up the majority of the faunal bone in archaeological
>> sites so
>> >> it isn't surprising that folks would have made tools from the rabbits
>> and
>> >> jackrabbits whenever it was practical. It isn't too uncommon to find
>> that
>> >> the only artiodactyl bone present will have been made into tools and
>> >> usually artiodactyl bone is overrepresented in the bone tools compared
>> to
>> >> the overall faunal assemblage.
>> >>
>> >> Jackrabbit tools and ornaments are also present in the Plains, but as a
>> >> generalization I don't think they usually make up as large a
>> proportion in
>> >> the overall bone artifact assemblage in the Plains as in the
>> southwest, at
>> >> least not in sites that have a lot of bison bone. That's a gross
>> >> generalization and I'm sure there are a lot of exceptions, but this is
>> my
>> >> overall impression from working a bit in the 4 Corners, S. Arizona, and
>> >> Plains.
>> >> Hope this helps
>> >>
>> >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >> Jan Griffitts
>> >> Visiting Scholar
>> >> Dept. of Anthropology,
>> >> Tucson,Arizona
>> >>
>> >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >> ________________________________
>> >> From: Bonetools [bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] on behalf of
>> Karin
>> >> Scott [kayscott at mweb.co.za]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:13 AM
>> >> To: bonetools at listserv.niif.hu
>> >> Subject: [Bonetools] Lepus and Bone Tools
>> >>
>> >> Dear List
>> >>
>> >> Thank you to Alice for adding me.
>> >> I am an Archaeozoologist based in South Africa. I am currently doing
>> my
>> >> Masters in comparative osteology and osteomorphology of the two hare
>> >> species of southern Africa Lepus capensis (Cape hare) and Lepus
>> saxatilis
>> >> (scrub hare) .
>> >> Hares remains are found on almost all archaeological faunal assemblages
>> >> here although the NISP/MNI numbers vary greatly. As part of my
>> osteology
>> >> research I look at the archaeological and ethnological record to try
>> and
>> >> explain their presence on site. I found a very short note in an
>> article
>> >> that hare/rabbit bones were used by native Americans to make bone
>> tools.
>> >> It made me wonder if the same happened here with the hare bones. Hares
>> >> were also used in traditional medicine and possibly for other items
>> such as
>> >> clothing.
>> >> I would appreciate any references and/or articles that relate to the
>> use
>> >> of hares (whole, part, or bones) worldwide that can give me a starting
>> >> point for investigations or speculations as to why they are always
>> present
>> >> on sites. That is, of course, in addition to forming part of the diet.
>> >> I thank you in advance for your assistance.
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards
>> >>
>> >> Karin
>> >> Never argue with a dragon
>> >> For thou art crunchy
>> >> and goes well with cheese
>> >>
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