[Bonetools] neolithic archer's rings

[Alice Choyke]

There is also a tradition of bone ring closures for leather bags in
Hungary. This is usually my first thought when I see such rings in
assemblage but WE NEED the use wear studies. *s that a naal-binding needle
on the far right of the image?*
**
*Alice*


On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Griffitts, Janet L - (griffitt) <
griffitt at email.arizona.edu> wrote:

>  Even in the late 1960s my grandmother used to seek out bone rings to
> close her handwoven bags!  Attached is a picture of some historic and
> modern bone tools, including an old bag of commercially made bone rings I
> found in Grandma's needlework bag (the same company now sells "plastic bone
> rings").
>
>
>  +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Jan Griffitts
> Visiting Scholar
> Dept. of Anthropology,
> Tucson,Arizona
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> *From:* bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu [
> bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] on behalf of Alice Choyke [
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> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2013 5:09 AM
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> *To:* Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study
> of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] neolithic archer's rings
>
>   Another type you might consider that would produce wear is clasps for
> bags.
>
> Alice
>
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Fotis Ifantidis <fotisif at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>   Mikhail:
>> No specialized use wear analysis was applied, it is more the form of some
>> rings that could be ascribed to archer's thumb rings. There are visible
>> major differences between the upper and bottom of some rings (some are more
>> lustruous) while in one case vertical discolorations may be due to the use
>> of arrow? I really cannot tell, it is too tricky.
>>
>>  Isabelle:
>>  Yes, some of them are quite fragile, but the majority of the antler ones
>> are quite robust.
>> Considering the basket-use, I would expect many more to be found having
>> at least some standarized dimensions.
>> Aegean bone rings are extremely rare, with Dispilio's assemblage of ca.
>> 70 objects being unique (while all of which appear in the earliest,
>> middle/late neolithic phase and not on the later phases). Though some
>> "types" could be discerned, it seems that each ring is quite different from
>> another: some are easily worn in the index, some could be only for
>> children, that is if *all* of them were fingerrings, and not simple
>> pendants, hair-adornments or some type of archer's rings.
>>  As you say,  experimentation and use wear analysis  cannot always offer
>> a clear result.
>>
>>
>> Christian:
>>  thank you for the article
>>
>>  Some more pics are attached
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/13 Christian Küchelmann <info at knochenarbeit.de>
>>
>>> Dear Fotis,
>>>
>>> the only paper I know dealing with archer's rings is from an archery
>>> journal:
>>>
>>> Dekker, Peter (2011): Using the Manchu Thumb Ring. – Society for the
>>> Promotion of Traditional Archery Newsletter Autumn 2011
>>> online: http://mandarinmansion.com/**articles/Using%20Manchu%**
>>> 20thumbrings%20Peter%20Dekker.**pdf<http://mandarinmansion.com/articles/Using%20Manchu%20thumbrings%20Peter%20Dekker.pdf>
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Christian
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>>>
>>> Am 13.05.2013 um 08:56 schrieb Fotis Ifantidis:
>>>
>>>  Though for years I had the feeling that some of the bone/antler finger
>>>> rings from my study material from Neolithic Dispilio (Greece) could be used
>>>> as archer’s rings, today I am more that certain…
>>>>
>>>> Do you know any (published) examples of Neolithic archer’s rings or a
>>>> general biblio?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> f.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://auth.academia.edu/**FotisIfantidis<http://auth.academia.edu/FotisIfantidis>
>>>>
>>>> visualizingneolithic.com
>>>> theotheracropolis.com
>>>> kalaureiainthepresent.org
>>>> spondylus.wordpress.com
>>>>
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