[Bonetools] fish hook paper

[S O'Connor]

Dear François,

Your English is excellent!  The statement in this paper relating to the
identification of the material is nonsense because the authors clearly do
not understand the structure of ivory. Of course, there are no dentinal
tubules in cementum!

I think you will agree that the photographs in the paper do seem to indicate
that this is proboscidean ivory, as the detail (c) shows texturing typical
of the surface of this dentine when it delaminates concentrically. The
images are not very good but I cannot see any convincing evidence of
cementum layers on the fishhook. Perhaps details (b) and (b1) are meant to
show a surviving fragment of cementum structure?

All the best,

Sonia

Dr Sonia O'Connor PhD FSA FIIC ACR Honorary Visiting Fellow, University of
York
Post-doctoral Research Fellow
Archaeological Sciences
Division of AGES,  
University of Bradford
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Subject: Re: [Bonetools] fish hook paper

I open this file/pdf and feel a lack of information, presumably due to my
poor english : "dentinal tubes in cementum"  : ? Are we in dentine or in
cementum ?

Thanks

Le 26/04/2013 19:58, Christian Küchelmann a écrit :
> ... and another recent bonetool publication:
>
> Gramsch, Bernhard / Beran, Jonas / Hanik, Susanne / Sommer, Robert S. 
> (2013): A Palaeolithic fishhook made of ivory and the earliest 
> fishhook tradition in Europe. – Journal of Archaeological Science 40,
> 2458-2463
>
> Best
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