[Bonetools] object decorated with dice

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Hello Alice,

I ought to point out that we invented the idea of the parchment pricker in England around 1990, 
but we have also now abandoned it ! The objects that were thought to be parchment prickers are now 
regarded as styli, and I suspect the German object is also a stylus, for use with a wax tablet. 
Small text on styli enclosed,



Ian Riddler



>----Original Message----

>From: choyke at ceu.hu

>Date: 12/06/2012 14:03 

>To: "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study of

>	object and waste of bone,

>	antler. ivory and horn."<bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>

>Subj: Re: [Bonetools] object decorated with dice

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>It certainly is the right size and shae for the objects used as parchment

>prickers for laying out manuscripts. Is the idea of the excavator that

>this tool would be used on a wax tablet for scores?

>

>Alice

>

>On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Marloes Rijkelijkhuizen <

>marloesrijkelijkhuizen at hotmail.com> wrote:

>

>>  Dear all,

>>

>> Thank you for your comments. I have received some pictures from another

>> viewpoint.

>> The excavator thinks it could be writing equipment for keeping scores for

>> example.

>>

>> The date is uncertain, but late medieval. The context is the court of a

>> castle.

>>

>> With best wishes,

>> Marloes

>>

>>  ------------------------------

>> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:14:47 +0200

>> From: choyke at ceu.hu

>> To: bonetools at listserv.niif.hu

>>

>> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] object decorated with dice

>>

>> Marloes - is there any kind of provenience or date on that object?

>>

>> A.

>>

>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Etan Ayalon <etana at eretzmuseum.org.il>wrote:

>>

>> **

>> Perhaps it's too thick and short to be a [hair pin]? possibly a stylus? As

>> for the dice, keep in mind their connection to *luck*, so why not carve

>> it on an object, like a *hamsa *(hand palm) and many other symbols?

>> Etan

>>

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>> *From:* bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu [mailto:

>> bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] *On Behalf Of *Alice Choyke

>> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 11:35 PM

>> *To:* Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study

>> ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.

>> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] object decorated with dice

>>

>>   That is one of the wierdest things I have ever seen.

>>

>> Alice

>>

>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Marloes Rijkelijkhuizen <

>> marloesrijkelijkhuizen at hotmail.com> wrote:

>>

>>  Dear all,

>>

>> A question from a German colleague.

>> This object is 6,6 cm long, diameter of the shaft is 0,4 cm. The dice are

>> circa 0,6 x 0,7 cm.

>>

>> Has anyone of you seen such a piece before, or has any other information?

>>

>> With best wishes,

>> Marloes

>>

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