[Bonetools] bone pavement

Thu Jul 12 15:16:24 CEST 2012

Having only just joined the list, I am unsure of exactly what period you are 
looking for, but there are currently excavations being undertaken on "The 
Curtain" (late 16th - early 17th C) theatre and there is a bone floor in 
situ there.

http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/curtain-up-on-shakespeares-lost-theatre.htm

David Constantine

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From: François Poplin
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [Bonetools] bone pavement

Le 12/07/2012 12:24, trzaska at lineone.net a écrit :
> Dear Francois,
>
> I have a feeling that there is a bone metapodial floor in the Oxford City 
> Museum - I will check
> up on that. To add an earlier dimension to the subject, they were also 
> used in single rows as the
> surround to at least one hearth of a 7th-century building in Lundenwic 
> (Middle Saxon London), laid
> out in a very neat rectangle. I can send the details of this along if 
> anybody is interested,

Yes, please, fine !
  It will help to show to the people in Jura, near Saint-Claude, to
understand the interest of what they hav

e. Ian Riddler PS there is no sign of them used in garden walls here in
Cornwall, England

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>> From: poplin at mnhn.fr
>> Date: 11/07/2012 13:31
>> To: <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
>> Subj: Re: [Bonetools] bone pavement
>> Le 10/07/2012 23:10, Serjeantson D. a écrit :
>>> Here is one photo of part of the floor. I will send another separately. 
>>> I was only able to take
> photos of parts of the floor as I did not have a proper camera with me.
>
>>> All floors of this type are usually called 'knucklebone floors' in 
>>> English, even if they are
> made with (or decorated with) other elements such as teeth and 
> metapodials, such as here - see the
> article and gazetteer by Philip Armitage - ARMITAGE, P. 1989. Gazetteer of 
> sites with animal bones
> used as building material and
>
>>> ARMITAGE, P. L. 1989. The use of animal bones as building material in 
>>> Post Medieval Britain. In:
> SERJEANTSON, D. & WALDRON, T. (eds.) Diet and Crafts in Towns.
>
>>> 'Knuckle' bones does usually refer to the astragalus, though I suppose 
>>> that an ape (or a person)
> which walks on its knuckles will be walking on the distal metacarpals. Are 
> bikkelbeen the same??
>
>> Dear all (specially Marloes Rijkelijkhuizen),
>> I found bikkelbeen in the dutch/flemmish field, refering to knuckelbone.
>> For example :
>> : Bikkel, Hilrich : osselet, garignon [I don't know "garignon" yet]
>> A propos bovine canon bones/métapodials of cattle (distal ends of which
>> are the only pieces in the V. Rossi and R. Le Pennec report) :
>> do you find in GB/UK these metapodials fixed/fastened in old gardens
>> walls, to attach trees; vine ? There arel lots of them in France, and,
>> as they come very close to the Channel in Normandy and Brittany, they
>> must be also in Great Britain. Are they not ?
>> Your's. .
>>> Dale
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>>> [bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] on behalf of T + M
> Tielens [info at bikkelenbeen.nl]
>
>>> Sent: 10 July 2012 19:06
>>> To: Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the study 
>>> of object and waste of
> bone, antler. ivory and horn.
>
>>> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] bone pavement
>>> Dear all,
>>> They appear to me as metapodia and not knucklebones (astragalus). Do you 
>>> agree?
>>> greetings Monica Tielens
>>> Bikkel (knucklebone) and Been (bone)
>>> 2012/7/10 François Poplin <poplin at mnhn.fr<mailto:poplin at mnhn.fr>>
>>> Dear Dale Serjantson,
>>> may I have more detail about your find, even a picture ? (is it 
>>> published yet ?)
>>> What do you mean with/by "knucklebones" ? talus/astragalus as usual ?
>>> Your's faithfully.
>>> Le 10/07/2012 11:41, Serjeantson D. a écrit :
>>> Hello Colleagues
>>> This example of a 'knucklebone floor' in the Jura is very interesting.
>>> I have just discovered another one in England, at Uppark, a National 
>>> Trust house in Sussex. It
> is part of a outdoor game larder designed by the architect Humphry Repton.
>
>>> I would be very interested to hear about other examples. Also, does 
>>> anyone have recommendations
> about the best way to conserve such floors? This one is outdoors, and 
> probably needs some
> conservation.
>
>>> Dale
>>> Dale Serjeantson
>>> Archaeology
>>> School of Humanities
>>> University of Southampton
>>> http://www.southampton.ac.uk/archaeology/profiles/serjeantson.html
>>>
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>>> [bonetools-
> bounces at listserv.niif.hu<mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu>] on 
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>>> Sent: 09 July 2012 17:15
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>>> of      object and waste
> of bone,       antler. ivory and horn.
>
>>> Subject: [Bonetools] bone pavement
>>> Dear Alice, dear all,
>>> Please, have a look, I'll come back afterwards.
>>> http://www.aricia.fr/jura-patrimoine/Os.htm
>>>
>>> Maybe would it be good to present that of the archezoo mailing list too 
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Alice, I remember Sandor Bökönyi telling of such thing(s) in Prague. Can
>>> you précise with Laslo Bart. ?
>>>
>>> I have seen a case in Spain recently (the picture is still in the 
>>> camera).
>>>
>>> Your's.
>>>
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>> Directeur honoraire de l'UMR 7209 Archéozoologie, Archébotanique : 
>> sociétés, pratiques et
> environnements
>> Responsable du Séminaire d'Anthropozoologie
>>
>> Muséum national d'Histoire naturelle
>> CP 56
>> Ancien Laboratoire d'Anatomie comparée
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>> 75005 Paris
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pratiques et environnements

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