[Bonetools] Re : Fwd: [ZOOARCH] proposed SAA interest group seeking signatures
Jean-Marc Petillon
petillon at univ-tlse2.fr
Tue Jan 10 17:45:41 CET 2012
Dear all,
I hope I did not sound aggressive towards the SAA, I was more perplexed
than anything else, and I am actually happy if this rather clumsy
message of mine led to an interesting discussion in the end. Being an
European, I did not see eurocentrism as particularly problematic in the
first place ;-) but your points of view are very sound and enlightening,
thanks for that!
Jean-Marc
Le 10/01/12 15:50, Christian Gates a écrit :
> Hello everyone,
>
> If I may share my point of view on this matter, I would like to
> underline the fact that most members of the WBRG are based in Europe,
> with meetings held in Europe. Unfortunately, many North American
> archaeologists sometimes have the tendency to look for collaboration
> with their North American collegues before looking at the international
> level, for various reasons (language, large basin of archaeologists in
> the USA, etc.). Thus, I think a working group among the Society for
> American Archaeology (SAA, perhaps the largest association of
> archaeologists in the world) cannot be a bad thing. The more working
> groups there are, the more worked bone studies will be known. It is not
> only a question of networking, but also a question of visibility and
> vitality. A multiplication of working groups would only mean that our
> field is alive and growing.
>
> Eva David mentions the 2004 symposium in Montreal, held during the
> annual SAA meeting. This is a symposium I organised with my collegue
> Renee Walker. At that time I was a postdoc fellow in the United States
> doing use wear analysis on bone tools. This was a new field to me (I
> have been trained as a ceramic specialist), and I had never met any
> other worked bone specialist before. It is only after this meeting that
> I joined the ICAZ and the WBRG. I'm saying this because I think it might
> happen again (with other young North American researchers especially).
> For example, If a worked bone working group in North America could do
> the same great work that is being done in Europe with the ICAZ-WBRG, I
> think that could only be a good thing. And I do not see these a
> "competing" working groups, but as different working groups on different
> continents working together, not against each other.
>
> Accordingly, I hope that a new worked bone working group will appear
> among the various SAA working groups. This will show to North American
> students and professors that it is an active field of research, and a
> further step in promoting the inclusion of work bone studies in the
> university curricula and in promoting the training of MA and PhD
> students in this field of research. Perhaps this could be a first step
> in having as many worked bone specialists in North America as there are
> in Europe (please, let me dream!!).
>
> I may be wrong, but this is how I see it. Sorry for this long message,
> and do not hesitate to share your comments on it.
>
> Have a nice day!
>
>
> Christian Gates St-Pierre
>
> Invited researcher
> Département d'anthropologie
> Université de Montréal
>
> Lecturer and posdoctoral research fellow
> Département d'histoire
> Université Laval
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *De :* Eva David <eva.david at mae.u-paris10.fr>
> *À :* "Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for the
> study of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn."
> <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
> *Envoyé le :* Mardi 10 Janvier 2012 4h56
> *Objet :* Re: [Bonetools] Fwd: [ZOOARCH] proposed SAA interest group
> seeking signatures
>
> Short Note :
> WBRG Members have already participated to SAA (Montréal, 2004) for a
> special dedicated session on Bone technology, but of course, they 're
> not there representative of WBRG's then :
> Ch. Gates St.-Pierre & R. Walker (Eds.), 2007, /Bones as Tools; Current
> methods and interpretations in worked bone studies/. Oxford (/BAR
> International Series/; 1622).
> Best, éva
>
>
> Le 9 janv. 2012 à 19:50, Alice Choyke a écrit :
>
>> Dear Jean-Marc,
>> I agree with you about possible duplication but it is also precisely
>> the reason that WBRG must be truly international and not expect the
>> world to come to us! I can perfectly understand that colleagues in the
>> US, Asia and the Pacific feel frustrated that all our meetings have
>> been uniformly in Europe. We should have pressed for more
>> international venues much earlier than Salzburg but, frankly, it never
>> occurred to me.
>> Cheers,
>> Alice
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Jean-Marc Petillon
>> <petillon at univ-tlse2.fr <mailto:petillon at univ-tlse2.fr>> wrote:
>>
>> It's good news to see that interest for bone technology is on the
>> rise in the SAA as well, but what will be the purpose of this
>> group except duplicating what the WBRG is already doing?
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 06/01/12 11:56, Christian Küchelmann a écrit :
>>
>>
>> Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:
>>
>> Von: Sarah Whitcher Kansa <skansa at ALEXANDRIAARCHIVE.ORG
>> <mailto:skansa at ALEXANDRIAARCHIVE.ORG>>
>> Datum: 5. Januar 2012 20:24:51 MEZ
>> An: ZOOARCH at JISCMAIL.AC.UK <mailto:ZOOARCH at JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
>> Betreff: [ZOOARCH] proposed SAA interest group seeking
>> signatures
>> Antwort an: Sarah Whitcher Kansa
>> <skansa at ALEXANDRIAARCHIVE.ORG
>> <mailto:skansa at ALEXANDRIAARCHIVE.ORG>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> A zooarchaeologist colleague, Lisa Dugas, is putting
>> together a
>> proposal for a new Zooarchaeology and Bone Technology
>> Interest Group
>> (ZBTIG) for the Society for American Archaeology. She is
>> soliciting
>> signatures from colleagues who are SAA members and who
>> would be
>> interested in participating in this working group. It will
>> be a free
>> group that will meet once a year at the SAA meeting to
>> exchange
>> information about zooarchaeology and bone technology
>> research and issues.
>>
>> Lisa has provided a simple form to sign that says you are
>> an SAA
>> member and plan to participate in the group. I've put the
>> form online
>> at the link below (Word doc) If you're at all interested,
>> please sign
>> it and send it to Lisa.
>> http://alexandriaarchive.org/__bonecommons/items/show/1819
>> <http://alexandriaarchive.org/bonecommons/items/show/1819>
>>
>>
>> (Zooarchaeology and Bone Technology Interest Group single
>> signature
>> form.doc)
>>
>> If you'd like more information about the proposed group,
>> please email
>> Lisa: l.dugas at gaiconsultants.com
>> <mailto:l.dugas at gaiconsultants.com>
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>> Sarah
>>
>>
>> -- Sarah Whitcher Kansa Executive Director,
--
Jean-Marc Petillon
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