[Bonetools] Fwd: A strange antler tool

Sat Mar 5 01:51:31 CET 2011

But to return to poor Michael's original object - I really wonder whether
this could be a draw plate for metal threads given how soft antler is. It is
really a puzzle.

Alice

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 5:42 PM, S O'Connor <S.Oconnor at bradford.ac.uk> wrote:

>  The name for this is a draw plate.
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> *From:* bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu [mailto:
> bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] *On Behalf Of *Gun-Britt
> *Sent:* 04 March 2011 12:09
> *To:* Mailing list for archaeologists of the research group for thestudy
> of object and waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.
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> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] Fwd: A strange antler tool
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> Hi and sorry for delayed answer.
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> I try to attach the drawing I made, and I hope you understand how I
> think-this would mean (I guess) that perhaps a "top" to this tool is
> missing, or if not, that they - like Etan suggested - used it for thongs or
> something softer and just used their finger to "top" it...i.e. to stop the
> what-ever-they-were-using to slip out of the groove. Sorry about the size,
> and hope it works,
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> **Gun-Britt, Sweden
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> *From:* Etan Ayalon <etana at eretzmuseum.org.il>
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> ofobjectand waste of bone, antler. ivory and horn.<bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 02, 2011 7:12 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Bonetools] Fwd: A strange antler tool
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> Dear all,
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> In the Levant, at least, such metal threads were traditionally made by
> goldsmiths with a different tool - a piece of metal with many small holes of
> various diameters. This piece was mounted on a wooden base equipped with a
> small pulley on each side. The thread was tied to one pulley, passed through
> the largest hole and pulled through it using the other pulley. Then it was
> transferred to the next, smaller hole etc. etc.
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> I was thinking about a tool used to straighten or strech strings and
> thongs, made for instance of leather, by holding one of them in one of the
> tool's slices, locking it in place with the finger and then pulling the tool
> along the string.
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> Etan Ayalon
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> *From**:* bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu [mailto:
> bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] *On Behalf Of** *Alice Choyke
> *Sent**:* Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:07 PM
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> study ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory and horn.
> *Subject**:* Re: [Bonetools] Fwd: A strange antler tool
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> Dear Gun-Britt,
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>     Could you send us a picture of this tool and explain how it works? I
> have never heard about such things and am now very curious indeed.
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> Cheers!
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> Alice
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> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Gun-Britt <lazy-b at algonet.se> wrote:
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> Hello all,
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> I am a lurking list-member, just enjoying reading all your inputs. I think
> too toward a metalworking tool, in making threads of metal of different
> thicknesses. It sure looks like a sort of "key" or mechanism, but hey, I
> have done some goldsmithing, and we used a similar tool to pull the metal
> into thinner and thinner threads. Hard work, but tin - as suggested earlier
> - is a very soft metal.
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> Just a thought,
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> Please continue,
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> Love and blessings,
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> **Gun-Britt Blomdahl
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> 5th year, thesis-writing at Linnaeus University, Kalmar, Sweden
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>   ----- Original Message -----
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> *From:* Christian Küchelmann <info at knochenarbeit.de>
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> *To:* BONETOOLS of bone <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
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> *Cc:* Michael Olausson <michael.olausson673 at gmail.com>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 01, 2011 6:12 PM
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> *Subject:* [Bonetools] Fwd: A strange antler tool
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> Dear all,
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> following up a request by Michael Olausson that has already been sent to
> the list by Alice last week (see below) I would like to add that the tool is
> now permanently visible for further discussion on the Mystery bone tool page
> of the WBRG website at
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> http://www.wbrg.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=20
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> Best
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> Christian
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> Dear All,
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>     I am forwarding a letter and photo from a Swedish colleague. Another
> strange tool. It looks like some part of a mechanism - a locking mechanism?
> However Michael Olausson also says it has some resemblances to a tool used
> by the Sami for producing tin thread! If you reply to Michael could you also
> please CC the list so we can all read about it?
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> Alice
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Michael Olausson* <michael.olausson673 at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:55 AM
> Subject: A strange antler tool
> To: h13017cho at helka.iif.hu
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> Dear Dr. Alice Choyke,
> Dr Kordula Gostencnik suggested that I should contact You in this
> matter. I will send You my letter to her as well with the picture of
> the item. Dr Gostencnik dod�t regard the toll as one conected to
> textil handcraft. She suggestes that it might be a toy, I do not agree
> with her, if it should look like a "bear" then it should be made as a
> bear! Since there are three differnt kinds of "measurements" of the
> teeth, I radaer would thinkt that it has been used to make threads ore
> to measure threads. We have a little discussion in Stockholm if it
> could be used for metal, silver and gold.
> The tool wich has many similarties with a Roman antler key, was found
> in mixed layers on a house terrace on the hilltop site,
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> "H�hensiedlung" Runsa frpm the 5th & 6th centuries.
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> It would be nice if You could have some ideas, references.
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> Yours Sincerely
> Michael Olausson
> ass.prof
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