[Bonetools] Re : Worked Astraguli from Turkmenistan

[MARQUEBIELLE Benjamin]

Dear Kate

Thank you for this information and, as Alice, I would like to have a pdf of the article !
We had to try some experiment with a potter who work with protohistoric techniques and he was very enthusiast about the idea.
We made first experiments with phalanges used as metal polisher (or burnisher, I'm not sure about the right word in english...) and the smith who work with us confirm it could be an efficient tool to finish and bring shine to metal pieces as fibulas. We had to make other experiments and to analyse this results more precisely, of course.

 
Best 
Benjamin


Marquebielle Benjamin
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Dear Kate,
       I would LOVE a PDF of this article. I just met a potter in southern Armenia who swears that traditonally potters in the region prefered bone as a burnisher and beyond that red deer bone. I personally doubt there is much difference between the density phalange/astrag from domestic animals kept extensively and those of red deer but clearly the insistence on the better qualities of red deer bone as burnishers is related to ideas about the nature of wild animals and red deer in particular. The potter actually says he would be willing to start using bone again if we send him enough examples from prehistoric contexts. Your article is about material right in the neighborhood as it were...
 
 
Cheers!
Alice


On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Katherine M. Moore <kmmoore at sas.upenn.edu> wrote:

Dear colleagues:
>
>A few weeks ago we shared an exchange about astraguli (and phalanges) that had been worked on one or both edges, and I commented that I was familiar with this from work in Bronze Age Turkmenistan. This was older work! and it took me a moment to dig out those records. At this point, there is no pdf, and I can't even find a computer file for the report in which this material appears:
>
>1993  Bone tool technology at Gonur Depe. Information Bulletin (Moscow),  vol.19: 218-227
>
>If there is interest, I could produce a pdf using a hard copy. I am attaching a drawing of two representative pieces. My manuscript notes a cache of 8 and a cache of 17 from room fill contexts at the southern, later, massive room block at this site. Single examples were also found. Worked and unworked bones were packed together, and sheep bones occurred together with those of the less common (probably wild) pig. Up to 4mm of bone material had been removed from individual faces of these bones. I speculated that they had been used on a softer but still abrasive material, but I regret that I am not sure if these pieces now are in Turkmenistan or in Moscow, and I have no good photographs of the pieces after they had been cleaned.
>
>for context on the American excavations at Gonur:
>
>Moore, K.M., N. Miller, F. Hiebert and R. Meadow 1994  Agriculture and herding in the early oasis settlements of  the Oxus Civilization.  Antiquity 68: 418-427.
>
>Hope this provides a further clue to the variability in these pieces.
>
>best wishes,
>
>Kate Moore
>
>Zooarchaeology Laboratory
>University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology
>3260 South Street
>Philadelphia, PA 19104 USA
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