[Bonetools] Mystery bird bone object from Gotland

kemanner at mappi.helsinki.fi kemanner at mappi.helsinki.fi
Thu Nov 4 12:22:50 CET 2010


Dear Peter,

Thank you very much for your kind answer, and excuse me for my late answer.

I went to see the www-pages you recommended, showing composite bone  
flutes. They look very different to me from the Ajvide pieces.  
However, I found some similarity, as you also pointed out. As far as I  
have not got any real alternative interpretion for these artecfacts, I  
will start to follow the musical line of interpretation of these  
artefacts; Maybe they really were parts of some kind of flutes.  
Together with a Finnish colleague, musicologist Riitta Rainio  
(specialiced in ancient instruments), we will now start to investigate  
Ajvide artifacts more presicely.

The problem here is, that materials are on Gotlands Fornsalen  
(Gotland, Sweden), and more problematically, exhibited in the  
permanent exhibition. I will try to find out if and how, we could  
nvestigate objects. I have studied the objects in 2006, but my main  
purpose was to identify bones.

Please find attached a drawing of the artefacts. It is taken from  
Burenhult, G. 2002. The grave-field at ajvide, Eksta, Gotland. In:  
Burenhult, G. (ed.) Remote sensing II, Theses & papers in Northern  
European Archaeology 13:b, 31-168.
In this catalogue, Göran Burenhult interpretes the artefacts as flutes  
("single flutes, double flutes and fltes with holes").

with best,
Kristiina

The Lainaus "Petar Zidarov" <petar.zidarov at yahoo.com>:

> Dear Kristiina and Christian,
> Thank you very much for shearing these interesting finds on the  
> Mystery Bonetools's page.
>
> I am not a specialist in history of musical instruments and I missed  
> the discussion in Paris following Kristiina's presentaiton, but what  
> I can see on the submitted pictures looks to me very much like very  
> well preserved elements of composite bone flutes.
> I could even imagine that if one dares to clean and put them  
> carefully together, actually one should be even able to reproduce  
> tones. Certainly they are much shorter than conventional pieces made  
> of
> wood/ivory but this could be due to size limitations imposed by the  
> raw material.
>
> Here are some links that could give you an idea what made me think  
> of identifying them as flute elements:
> - http://www.bulgariankaval.com/index.html
> - http://orgs.usd.edu/nmm/WilliamPotter.html#pewter
>
> I am looking very much forward hearing more about these spectacular finds.
>
> With best wishes,
> Petar
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> --- On Mon, 10/11/10, Christian Küchelmann <info at knochenarbeit.de> wrote:
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> From: Christian Küchelmann <info at knochenarbeit.de>
> Subject: [Bonetools] Mystery bird bone object from Gotland
> To: "BONETOOLS of bone" <bonetools at listserv.niif.hu>
> Cc: "Kristiina Mannermaa" <kemanner at mappi.helsinki.fi>
> Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 6:09 PM
>
> Dear list members,
>
> Kristiina Mannermaa has sent pictures and facts about the mysterious  
> bird bone objects from Gotland she presented at the recent ICAZ  
> meeting in Paris in August. The objects are accessible now at the  
> mystery bone tool page on the WBRG-Website:
> http://www.wbrg.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=20
> If anybody has any comparative objects, ideas, remarks, please get  
> in  contact with Kristiina at kemanner at mappi.helsinki.fi
>
> A copy to the Bonetool list would be highly appreciated.
>
> Yours
>
> Christian
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