[Bonetools] wrist guards for archery

Tue Feb 2 12:54:47 CET 2010

Hello Sonia and anybody else interested,

sure experimenting would be a good way to test the suitability of  
these objects for archery. Should be fun too. Following Selena it is  
even possible that the identification of at least some of those  
objects as wrist guards is wrong. With a more intense research it  
might be possible to develop criteria for discrimination.

Best

Christian
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Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:

> Thanks for these Christian.  Clearly the answer is to get archers  
> to try out
> replicas of these pieces and see if they are in anyway functional  
> for the
> purpose that has been suggested.
>
> Sonia
>
> Dr Sonia O'Connor FSA FIIC ACR
> Archaeological Sciences
> Division of AGES,  University of Bradford
> Bradford, West Yorkshire, BD7 1DP, UK
>
> tel 01274 23 6498 (office) 5210 (lab)
> fax 01274 23 5210

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Am 01.02.2010 um 21:28 schrieb Selena Vitezovic:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Bone plaques with 2 or more perforations, similar to the one on the  
> photo Christian sent, also exist in bronze age in northern Serbia -  
> I just can not find if I have any photo or drawing at home. Usually  
> they are called "decorative plaques". Now, I was wondering - are  
> there any "must have" for these objects to be wristguards - such as  
> dimensions, number of perforations, position of perforations....?
>
> best, Selena

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>
> On 1 February 2010 21:09, Alice Choyke <h13017cho at iif.hu> wrote:
> These wrist guards, so-called, seem to be a type for the Hungarian  
> Bell-Beaker sites around Budapest as well (here they represent the  
> beginning of the Early Bronze Age (2500 BC). There are no bone  
> examples, only slate.
>
> Alice

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>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Christian Küchelmann  
> <info at knochenarbeit.de> wrote:
> Hello Sonia, dear all,
>
> sorry for the late reply, but i did not manage to research in the  
> recent past. But last week I came across two objects from neolithic  
> bell beaker sites in Schleswig-Holstein, Germany (Archsum,  
> Neversdorf) which are exhibited in the Museum in Schleswig that are  
> interpreted as neolithic wrist guards (see below). They are made  
> from slate and do have edges that I would assume to imply the  
> danger of catching the bowstring. The other one is made of bone and  
> was found in Stary Zamek near Wroclaw, Poland and is exhibited in  
> the Archaeological Museum Wroclaw. It is also neolithic (5500-2200  
> BC). Here are some other links concerning the topic found in a  
> quick search on the web:
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armschutzplatte
> http://www.archaeoforum.de/viewtopic.php? 
> t=2641&sid=9fdcc962ddce819a38dfe8672bed9591
>
> Best
>
> Christian
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> KNOCHENARBEIT
>
> Hans Christian Küchelmann
> Diplom-Biologe
>
> Konsul-Smidt-Straße 30, D-28217 Bremen, Germany
> tel: +49 - 421 - 61 99 177
> fax: +49 - 421 - 37 83 540
> mail: info at knochenarbeit.de
> web: http://www.knochenarbeit.de
>
>
>
>
>
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> Am 15.04.2009 um 19:39 schrieb Christian Küchelmann:
>
> Hi Sonia,
>
> I am shooting with long bows as well and I know pretty well what  
> you mean, as it is a very unpleaseant experience when the string  
> eventually gets stuck behind the wrist guard let alone that it can  
> be dangerous for the archer. Nevertheless there are definite bone  
> wrist guards from earlier than the Islamic periods. And I remember  
> having asked myself the same question: Don't they imply the danger  
> of catching the string? I will try to find pictures of examples and  
> we may discuss if there are misinterpretations of those objects.  
> Unfortunately I will leave for a ten days holidays tommorrow so I  
> will have to postpone this search for the time after my return.
>
>
> Best
>
> Christian
> --
> KNOCHENARBEIT
>
> Hans Christian Küchelmann
> Diplom-Biologe
>
> Konsul-Smidt-Straße 30, D-28217 Bremen, Germany
> tel: +421 - 61 99 177
> fax: +421 - 37 83 540
>
> mail: info at knochenarbeit.de
> web: http://www.knochenarbeit.de
>
>
>
>
> Am 15.04.2009 um 14:46 schrieb S O'Connor:
>
> Dear Marta and Hans,
>
> As an archer, all the wrist guards I have worn (admittedly in  
> stiffened
> leather) are thin and curved to tightly follow the contours of the  
> lower
> arm.  They are designed so as not to present any edges or angles on  
> which
> the bow string might catch when it is released. I don't think this  
> object
> could function in that way.
>
>
> Sonia
>
> Dr Sonia O'Connor FSA FIIC ACR
> Research Fellow in Conservation
>
> Archaeological Sciences, Division of AGES
>
> University of Bradford
> Bradford, West Yorkshire BD7 1DP
>
> Tel 01274 236498 (office), Tel 01274 235210 (lab.), Fax 01274 235190
>
>
> X-Radiography of Textiles, Dress and Related Materials by Sonia  
> O'Connor and
> Mary BrooksCheck it out at
> http://books.elsevier.com/uk//Elsevier/uk/subindex.asp? 
> maintarget=&isbn=0750
> 666323
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of Christian
> Küchelmann
> Sent: 15 April 2009 13:32
> To: marta at ipa.min-cultura.pt; Mailing list for archaeologists of the
> research group for the study ofobject and waste of bone,antler.  
> ivory and
> horn.
> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] help with bone artefact
>
> Hi Marta,
>
> my first idea was an armplate of a bowyer to protect your lower arm
> from the bowstring (can't remember the correct term in english). I
> remember that I saw similar ones in the exhibition "Furusuiyya –
> Chevaliers en Pays d'Islam" in the Institute du Monde Arab in Paris
> (http://www.imarabe.org/).
>
> Yours
>
> Christian
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