[Bonetools] wrist guards for archery

[Selena Vitezovic]

Hello everyone,

Bone plaques with 2 or more perforations, similar to the one on the photo
Christian sent, also exist in bronze age in northern Serbia - I just can not
find if I have any photo or drawing at home. Usually they are called
"decorative plaques". Now, I was wondering - are there any "must have" for
these objects to be wristguards - such as dimensions, number of
perforations, position of perforations....?

best, Selena

On 1 February 2010 21:09, Alice Choyke <h13017cho at iif.hu> wrote:

> These wrist guards, so-called, seem to be a type for the Hungarian
> Bell-Beaker sites around Budapest as well (here they represent the beginning
> of the Early Bronze Age (2500 BC). There are no bone examples, only slate.
>
> Alice
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Christian Küchelmann <
> info at knochenarbeit.de> wrote:
>
>> Hello Sonia, dear all,
>>
>> sorry for the late reply, but i did not manage to research in the recent
>> past. But last week I came across two objects from neolithic bell beaker
>> sites in Schleswig-Holstein, Germany (Archsum, Neversdorf) which are
>> exhibited in the Museum in Schleswig that are interpreted as neolithic wrist
>> guards (see below). They are made from slate and do have edges that I would
>> assume to imply the danger of catching the bowstring. The other one is made
>> of bone and was found in Stary Zamek near Wroclaw, Poland and is exhibited
>> in the Archaeological Museum Wroclaw. It is also neolithic (5500-2200 BC).
>> Here are some other links concerning the topic found in a quick search on
>> the web:
>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armschutzplatte
>> http://www.archaeoforum.de/viewtopic.php
>> ?t=2641&sid=9fdcc962ddce819a38dfe8672bed9591
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Christian
>> --
>> KNOCHENARBEIT
>>
>> Hans Christian Küchelmann
>> Diplom-Biologe
>>
>> Konsul-Smidt-Straße 30, D-28217 Bremen, Germany
>> tel: +49 - 421 - 61 99 177
>> fax: +49 - 421 - 37 83 540
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------
>>
>> Am 15.04.2009 um 19:39 schrieb Christian Küchelmann:
>>
>>  Hi Sonia,
>>>
>>> I am shooting with long bows as well and I know pretty well what you
>>> mean, as it is a very unpleaseant experience when the string eventually gets
>>> stuck behind the wrist guard let alone that it can be dangerous for the
>>> archer. Nevertheless there are definite bone wrist guards from earlier than
>>> the Islamic periods. And I remember having asked myself the same question:
>>> Don't they imply the danger of catching the string? I will try to find
>>> pictures of examples and we may discuss if there are misinterpretations of
>>> those objects. Unfortunately I will leave for a ten days holidays tommorrow
>>> so I will have to postpone this search for the time after my return.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Christian
>>> --
>>> KNOCHENARBEIT
>>>
>>> Hans Christian Küchelmann
>>> Diplom-Biologe
>>>
>>> Konsul-Smidt-Straße 30, D-28217 Bremen, Germany
>>> tel: +421 - 61 99 177
>>> fax: +421 - 37 83 540
>>>
>>> mail: info at knochenarbeit.de
>>> web: http://www.knochenarbeit.de
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 15.04.2009 um 14:46 schrieb S O'Connor:
>>>
>>>  Dear Marta and Hans,
>>>>
>>>> As an archer, all the wrist guards I have worn (admittedly in stiffened
>>>> leather) are thin and curved to tightly follow the contours of the lower
>>>> arm.  They are designed so as not to present any edges or angles on
>>>> which
>>>> the bow string might catch when it is released. I don't think this
>>>> object
>>>> could function in that way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sonia
>>>>
>>>> Dr Sonia O'Connor FSA FIIC ACR
>>>> Research Fellow in Conservation
>>>>
>>>> Archaeological Sciences, Division of AGES
>>>>
>>>> University of Bradford
>>>> Bradford, West Yorkshire BD7 1DP
>>>>
>>>> Tel 01274 236498 (office), Tel 01274 235210 (lab.), Fax 01274 235190
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> X-Radiography of Textiles, Dress and Related Materials by Sonia O'Connor
>>>> and
>>>> Mary BrooksCheck it out at
>>>> http://books.elsevier.com/uk//Elsevier/uk/subindex.asp
>>>> ?maintarget=&isbn=0750
>>>> 666323
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu
>>>> [mailto:bonetools-bounces at listserv.niif.hu] On Behalf Of Christian
>>>> Küchelmann
>>>> Sent: 15 April 2009 13:32
>>>> To: marta at ipa.min-cultura.pt; Mailing list for archaeologists of the
>>>> research group for the study ofobject and waste of bone,antler. ivory
>>>> and
>>>> horn.
>>>> Subject: Re: [Bonetools] help with bone artefact
>>>>
>>>> Hi Marta,
>>>>
>>>> my first idea was an armplate of a bowyer to protect your lower arm
>>>> from the bowstring (can't remember the correct term in english). I
>>>> remember that I saw similar ones in the exhibition "Furusuiyya –
>>>> Chevaliers en Pays d'Islam" in the Institute du Monde Arab in Paris
>>>> (http://www.imarabe.org/).
>>>>
>>>> Yours
>>>>
>>>> Christian
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>
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