(Fwd) Re: (Fwd) Re: bone whistles ...and bone working group

[alice]

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The person who knows most about ancient musical instruments, especially
pipes of all kinds, in England is Graeme Lawson. He has in past been
affiliated to McDonald Institute Cambridge but works as a free lance
specialist. so e-mails best contact. Last address I had for him is:
ancientmusic at madasafish.com  If that doesnt work I could see if we have
another address on file.     Hope this of use.  Catherine Hills

--On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 1:12 AM +0100 alice <h13017cho at helka.iif.hu> wrote:

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> From:                   "Ruth F. Carden, Zoology" <Ruth.Carden at ucd.ie>
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> Does anyone have any knowledge or references to the
> making(present and past) of bone whistles by hominids? I am
> trying to reconstruct one out of deer bone (red, sika or fallow
> postcranial bone). Any elements in particular used? (I have heard of
> use of phalanges and tibia. I have all bones of fore and hind legs of
> these species). Has anyone constructed one? if so any tips or
> information would be gratefully appreciated. Thank you.
> Kind regards
> Ruth Carden
>
> On 1 Oct 2002, at 10:46, alice wrote:
>
>> Dear Ruth,
>>  There is a literature on bone whistles which were supposed used by
>> hunteres to signal each other. This seems a pretty big leap of
>> imagination to me however attractive. I m not aware of whistles made
>> on ruminant metapodials. The work I have seen was concerned with first
>> phanlanges of red deer or reindeer. I will have to think where I saw
>> these articles but they are relatively old. One word of caution
>> however. Many of these supposedly worked bones were, in fact, produced
>> by gnawing which produced 'windows in the cortical bone.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Alice Choyke
>>
>> PS you might try forwarding your question to the Worked Bone
>> Research Group Mailing list at: bonetools at listserv.iif.hu It is a
>> closed list but if you mail the question I can forward it to the list.
>> If you are interested in bone tools perse I can add your name to the
>> list and you can send letters directly.
>>
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